Strumming patterns: am I missing any? [2021]

Luke you are doing such a wonderful work for us!
My request when you will have time to work on it would be on measures with 5/4, 7/4 and 9/4, (or 5/8, 7/8, 9/8) and the possibility to insert those measures anywhere.
The reason is because I love some tunes with that kind of rythm, and we have many for example in some Béla’s tunes :wink:

Thanks and all the best!

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Hello Luke,
What an awesome concept, can’t wait to hear it implemented and continually evolve!
Strum Machine’s Editor exactly what I have been looking for with ability to select strumming patterns and tempos for different song sections.

Perhaps I missed them above, what about adding most common 4/4 strumming patterns,
D dududu
duDuduDu
d du udu
d dud du
d d udud
dudu udu

Note, I certainly would be willing to pay extra to implement and grow specific strumming patterns options list over time!

Any way count on me subscribing + Thank you + Cheers,
Mike

@GillesRzard - yes, compound time signatures will come at some point down the road. You’ll probably have to specify them as (3+2)/4, (2+2+3)/8, etc., so that Strum Machine knows how to play them. And you’ll be able to switch time signatures in the middle of a song too.

@MichaelSchott - at least some of those down-up strumming patterns are included in the plan above. I’ll be able to cover all of them with the samples I am recording. That said, something like “d du udu” can mean different things, depending on what “down” refers to.

In a “pop” context, one usually strums across all the strings for both the down and up strokes, as they’re relying on bass and drums to carry some of the rhythmic variety. Whereas in the kinds of music that most Strum Machine users are focusing on, some of those downstrokes are actually bass notes, or bass hits across multiple strings, or treble strings only, depending on the pattern.

For example, the “Syncopated Boom-Chuck” pattern above is technically a “d du udu” pattern, but there are at least two kinds of downstrokes and two kinds of upstrokes used.

Anyway, I am focusing on the more complex patterns because they are in higher demand and more difficult to implement, but we should be able to get the “pop” patterns included in that quite easily.

And all of these new patterns will be free for all Strum Machine users!

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Luke, I don’t suppose there are that many Strum Machine fans that are into this kind of thing, so its priority can’t be very high, but I would so love to have some Latin strums available. Just a couple of basic ones would cover a lot of the repertoire out there. Something like this would work for chacarera, zamba, and even huapango in a pinch, and this simpler one would serve for more up-tempo stuff like joropo and the like. Of course, then you’d have to translate your UI into Spanish for all the Latin American pickers who would come flocking to the app :slight_smile:

Are these new patterns out yet

I was initially hopeful there’d be something to play with by the end of the year, but that’s basically out of the question now. Between the fixing the issues with iOS devices, getting my billing compliant with VAT/taxes, and other no-fun-but-absolutely-necessary tasks, I am already going to be scrambling to get everything done before we go out of town for Christmas.

New strumming patterns remain my #1 goal and the thing I want to work on the most. But I don’t always get to work on what I want to work on. :confused:

Hopefully in January I can focus more-or-less exclusively on this and have something out in the first few months of 2022. [Update: Most of January got taken up by stupid-but-necessary tasks related to taxes and legal requirements… but as of the last week of January I’m finally able to focus on building these new patterns.]

Hey Luke, Thanks for all of your hard work on Strum Machine. I use it a lot, and think it’s a fantastic tool.

Was wondering if you’d consider adding the option of adding a click track to the strum, for those of us who are rhythmically challenged.

Here’s an example of something I would find very helpful:
https://twitter.com/noampikelny/status/1453190155704193029?s=21

Thanks again for this fantastic app!

Ted

Yes, a click track is definitely coming in the future!

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Please include the Arpeggiated chords: For slower songs, hymns, etc.
If possible! Great Job! Jim Jones

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Hey folks,

Thought I’d give a quick update and teaser about the new strumming patterns project. After many delays, I’ve finally got some momentum going and a decent amount of progress. I made some breakthroughs in my recording process in the past month that have resolved some long-standing issues (not roadblocks per se but detractors all the same) which is going to make the end result even better! There’s still lots and lots to do but we’re getting closer!

There are many pieces to the project, each in varying states of completion (most pretty far from completion still, to be honest), but I wanted to share a sneak peek. This is me playing mandolin along with a guitar track, generated in real time with a swung bluegrass rhythm:

Thanks for your patience… I promise it will be worth the wait!

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Sounds terrific Luke!

@LukeAbbott I’m new here and just read through this thread and watched your sneak peak video. The new strum patterns are sounding amazing and authentic. I’m really looking forward to getting to work with those! I’ll be introducing all of my friends and students to this software.

I have a couple suggestions:
For bluegrass, one thing that seems missing is the “uptown” rhythm style commonly associated with progressive bluegrass (omit 3rds, replace with fifths) and the percussive “thunk” that sets up the downbeat strums.

It would also be great if there were standard rhythms for boogie/rockabilly/blues music at some point. You’ve done a great job focusing on folk/bluegrass music rhythm, but maybe at some point when that’s finished, you could give us some blues and shuffle type rhythms. There are even the occasional bluegrass tunes that employ some of that and it would be good for older country stuff too…

Thanks so much for your awesome app and all the hard work you’ve invested into it. As a full stack web developer who sometimes works with Angular, Node, etc. I have a deep appreciation for the work that goes into what you’re building here. Cheers!

Hey @DaveMueller - welcome, and thanks! A couple responses:

For bluegrass, one thing that seems missing is the “uptown” rhythm style commonly associated with progressive bluegrass (omit 3rds, replace with fifths) and the percussive “thunk” that sets up the downbeat strums.

Could you please provide a recorded example or two of what you’re talking about? I may have this covered but I’m not sure.

It would also be great if there were standard rhythms for boogie/rockabilly/blues music at some point.

Yes! At the moment I’ve got two of these planned: a swinging strummy rhythm that alternates with a major sixth (e.g. Hank Williams in Long Gone Lonesome Blues) and a bass-heavy muffled blues shuffle (e.g. this random YouTube demo minus the fancy treble-string licks). I’ll repeat the title of this thread here: am I missing any? (I’m sure the answer is yes, so if any specific patterns/examples come to mind that you’d want to see, let me know!)

Hello Luke,
We’re You able to work the slower hymn patterns into the list?

I could greatly use the rhythms for SLOWER songs for HYMNS. I’ve started using StrumMachine to back up
Hymns and Southern Gospel for my SAXOPHONE instrumentals.

SO EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF THESE NEW PATTERNS! YOU’RE AWESOME!!!
Jim Jones

@JimJones Yes, I think there will be a couple of good options for slower songs and hymns, including strums with lots of down-and-up strokes (to fill the space) and arpeggiated chords (picked one string at a time).

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Thank you for your prompt reply!
I’M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS REVISION AND CAN’T HARDLY WAIT……Regards, Jim

Thank you Luke for your continuing work on these Strum Patterns.
The strums for slower songs and waltzes will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers. :wink:

Hey Luke, would he be possible to have a different strumming style for the ending? Like the last measure of Part A and B. This is pretty common in real life, basically just some simple yet pronounced strums to indicate finality.

@RobertBiggs Yeah, that’s definitely something I want to explore in the future. I’m hoping that there’s some things I can (optionally) do automatically, versus having to explicitly tell it what to do on the last measure. Of course, exactly what that is will have to vary with each strumming style as well.

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@LukeAbbott Here is video clip showing the strum pattern. I guess I think of it as commonplace because I was taught it a long time ago by a friend of mine and great rhythm player named Jeff Griffy who used to play with David Davis. He is strongly influenced by Tony Rice and I figured that’s who he got it from, but maybe not, or maybe it’s not so common? :smiley: Anyway, it’s one of my favorite strums and a great way to add power and punch, especially when backing a banjo: Downbeat Accent Strum Example - YouTube

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